Minelab SE disappointment

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Minelab SE disappointment

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just sold my minelab se.very disappointed.i wanted one for ages.just goes to show the top end machines arent what they are cracked up to be the great machine the hype says.look on ebay.preloved its fullof them.gone back to a whites m6.at least i find silver without going through a list of programs.the se is a joke in factory modes to much discrim for me and on the beach :)) lol anyway happy again cheers mick.first time out with m6 william 3 silver shilling cant see date bet 1834 up to 5 years i think just before queen victoria .if my history is correct bye



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You cant have set it up right mate I wouldn't swap mine for anything else

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Im suprised by this comment. The explorers are heavy but once you know what your doing i cant imagine a better machine. The depth they detect is jaw dropping and they are literally superb on the beach.
I simply cancel iron out and im ready, choosing what to dig on tone and/or placement of crosshairs.
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I don't think you gave it enough time :-O

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The bottom line is if you are not liking the detector and you dont feel confident with it go back to a machine that you are,it may or may not have been setup right if you cannot feel at harmony with your machine it just wont work.

Just my opinion i think he made the right move ::g
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hettyred wrote:just sold my minelab se.very disappointed.i wanted one for ages.just goes to show the top end machines arent what they are cracked up to be the great machine the hype says.look on ebay.preloved its fullof them.gone back to a whites m6.at least i find silver without going through a list of programs.the se is a joke in factory modes to much discrim for me and on the beach :)) lol anyway happy again cheers mick.first time out with m6 william 3 silver shilling cant see date bet 1834 up to 5 years i think just before queen victoria .if my history is correct bye
ive had mine about 6 months i wouldnt change mine for anything and as for not being able to find silver ive had 15 silver hammerds
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Machines need time to learn them.

I have had my Etrac for over 2 years, and am still learning.

The Minelab 'exploders' are one of the very best on the market.
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The Minelab 'exploders' are one of the very best on the market.[/quote]
crumbs i hope mine don't explode would'nt want that =)) =)) =)) =)) =))
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really can't understand this post as the explorers are very good machines great inland and on the beaches. yes they take time to learn and yes you can find silver with them and gold .one of the best machines out there albeit a bit on the heavy side. get the right program and they are turn on and go machines
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Well, I dont know if my EXPLODER found all that stuff or is it just just my imagination :D :D :D
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kopparberg wrote:The Minelab 'exploders' are one of the very best on the market.
crumbs i hope mine don't explode would'nt want that =)) =)) =)) =)) =))[/quote]

I've heard you get a good bang for your buck =))
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RALLYMAKER wrote: My greatest pleasure is to get on the beach with the trusty Sovereign turn on ground balance and go!! without the nagging thought in my mind am I in the right program , have I got it set up right, I dont have to look at a screen , yes I dig a bit of aluminium ,but its freedom and the best way to detect, I dont need to look at a screen to tell me I found a pound coin ,just my thoughts ...
I have been using Explorers and the Etrac for 12 years and I guarantee you that you only need one "program" in these machines to search for items in British soils. People who keep changing things will never learn the machine, it would be an impossibility. Set it to the accepted best settings and leave it alone, hundreds of users have done the trial and error for you a long time ago.
The M6 is a lovely and simple machine that will find silver very very well but the SE is a whole different kettle of fish as far as the learning curve is concerned.
when I first started using them I had been detecting over 20 years then so thought "this can't be to difficult" lol There were still times after 12 months that I wanted to launch it over the nearest hedge :))
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chefphones wrote:
RALLYMAKER wrote: My greatest pleasure is to get on the beach with the trusty Sovereign turn on ground balance and go!! without the nagging thought in my mind am I in the right program , have I got it set up right, I dont have to look at a screen , yes I dig a bit of aluminium ,but its freedom and the best way to detect, I dont need to look at a screen to tell me I found a pound coin ,just my thoughts ...
I have been using Explorers and the Etrac for 12 years and I guarantee you that you only need one "program" in these machines to search for items in British soils. People who keep changing things will never learn the machine, it would be an impossibility. Set it to the accepted best settings and leave it alone, hundreds of users have done the trial and error for you a long time ago.
The M6 is a lovely and simple machine that will find silver very very well but the SE is a whole different kettle of fish as far as the learning curve is concerned.
when I first started using them I had been detecting over 20 years then so thought "this can't be to difficult" lol There were still times after 12 months that I wanted to launch it over the nearest hedge :))
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What is the "one" programme Chef?(No not that one on the telly!!!)

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Hi Chefphones,

2nd request for your one program for Explorer SE

Do You have one program for an eTrac?

Does it work with the Ultimate coil?

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I know it's an old thread but. What is this one program. May have it to please :-)
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I just posted about trading in my Explorer on another thread, fantastic machine great design and I spent a long time deciding what to upgrade too, but! just was not happy using it when I got it, got tips off the forum on best programs tried them out at various digs but all the time I was using it I was thinking I don't like this, as said in other thread in hind site I should have gone from the Ace 250 up to a safari then perhaps to Explorer, and because i started to dislike using it, it put me off detecting so went for an Garrett AT Pro international which I really enjoy using.
I may return to the Minelab club at some point when I have got more detecting time under my belt and when I can afford ctx 3030 so I expect I will be using my Garrett for a long time to come. :;@
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Hi what is THE one program ????

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clint wrote:What is the "one" programme Chef?(No not that one on the telly!!!)

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Did you ever get the one program clint ?

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Having to mine ex11 and the se minelab se due to the weight I an updated to a deus metal detector I am finding stuff that I miss with the minelab and of course go all day with no arm not dropping off .plus using garys program works wonders

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Would love to know what this one programme is!!!?

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I hope chef won't be uspset if I post this up, but I too had my interest piqued by his post above, so much so that I went on a hunt for it, this is what I found, gonna give it a try on my next hunt to see if it suits my ears :;@
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by chefphones » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:50 pm
No secret in my settings and I basically only use one set up;
Disc out nails

DETECTOR MODE. Advanced

SENSITIVITY. Manual and as high as you and it are comfortable with try not to drop below 19

DISPLAY Smart

SELECT.reject nails only

VOLUME 10 max

GAIN. 9

TONE THRESHOLD 1

VARIABILITY 9

LIMITS 9

SOUNDS Conductive

RESPONSE Audio 3

RECOVERY DEEP on FAST off But if you get an SEF coil both off

If things get too noisy then back off either/both Sensitivity and audio gain.

And then it's a matter of practice, practice, practice, I't can and does take a good six months to learn the tones as these are the most reliable (it took me a year) so don't get disheartened if you think you'll never get the hang of it, it's a little like learning to ride a bike, at first you may think you'll never get the hang of it then one day "Bingo" and you'll wonder why you couldn't before.

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as francis posts ::g or some very minor variation

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i run open screen , nothing rejected , then use the edit screen and disc the top left pixel out ( this stops you from going insane ) , the rest of program is same. to make the learning curve easy you only need to learn one sound !! iron!!.... you dig the rest

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I have had mine for about 6 months now. Quite similar settings to that 'one programme' actually but will do this one exactly at the weekend. I do feel im getting used to the tomes as sometimes i dig the really rubbish signals and am not surprised to find lumps of iron and other rubbish, i prefer the numbers screen though to the cross hairs.

Hi tone two way is a digger and high tone scratchy one ways are also....

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Ok so i went out today and loaded those settings exactly..... to be honest i was confused as normally I was getting high tones for good target and low for iron and junk but today some trash was coming up very high on the tones. I was trusting the smart screen and the numbers but am I doing this correctly. I kind of preferred the old settings I had but I will give this a go when i go out a few more times and see.

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Stop keep fiddling.
Start in factory settings (do a reset).

If there aren`t any finds there no machine will find them.

Once you start to learn the tones in factory settings then start making GENTLE adjustments.

Do not use any discrimination, use your ears.

Once you learn what is iron........ dig the rest.

Numbers are the machines "next best guess" and are pretty much no use.
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Anyone got the settings for mals beach programme for a ex se ::g

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Have had my explorer se for 10 years now and have found some nice things.artifacts,hammered coins ,silvercoins etc.tried factory settings and my own but don't really rate the machine.Its too heavy and can miss a lot.Just got the new Deus v4and tried it on some pasture id done many times with the explorer.within 5 mins I had pulled 4 coins up.only did half hour and found lead soldiers,bag seals and a roman copper childs ring.all had been missed by the explorer se and in factory settings as well.am gonna stick with the deus and will be selling the explorer.

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I had one as a first detector, kept for about a year then upgraded to a CTX, it is a great machine but the factory programs discrimination wise are not meant for UK soil and coins. it's only downfall is a slow recovery speed, so swing speed is very important. I had some great finds with it and like all minelabs depth and beach detecting is very good.

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