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Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:22 pm

Hello guys,just recently gained some permission on pasture land and I’m struggling with it,im using a Garret ace 250 with the standard coil but I’m feeling like it’s not doing the job required,im finding trash 4 to 6 inches deep but not getting any targets which are deeper,am I being impatient or am I right thinking that there must be a better coil to do the job,any advice will be greatly appreciated!! Cheers!👍



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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Blackadder43 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:25 pm

You are being impatient
Spend time learning the machine and what it is telling you
Not all signals blow your ears off
My advice on pasture, all metal, minimal discrimination, patience, methodical detecting, research, old maps, common sense
Not trying to be funny, but you are new to the hobby, some of us have been doing it since the dawn of time and still have things on our lists that we have never found

How do you know if there are any finds at deeper levels in the areas you have been over already?
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:55 pm

Thanks for your advice blackadder,I really respect your experience, and find the advice given to me precious, I’ll change my mindset accordingly, thanks mate!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Ladybird66 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:56 pm

The sad fact is you may well have passed a good signal and maybe even at 1 inch deep.

Think about the way you swing the detector. Unless you mark out a small area and walk ove it one way and then the other and then from corner to corner, it’s almost certain you won’t have covered every inch of ground.
A friend of mine worked out how long it would take for one man to detect every inch of a 10 acre a field (mad) if he worked at it for 8 hours a day. Can’t remember the exact answer but he reckoned it’d last a life-time.
I always say, remember the 3 ‘P’. Patience, Persistence and Perserverance.

It’ll come eventually, one day ::g :D
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by JonM » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:57 pm

As said in the previous post by Blackadder43, take your time to learn what the machine is telling you and start with it on an "open" level of all metal. Once you begin to get an inckling of what your machine is telling you having dug similar targets ........ then start to discriminate.
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:59 pm

Thanx for the advice ladybird, I think the word of the day is patience!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Blackadder43 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:00 pm

To give you a bit of confidence in your machine then take a few things with you next time, a pre decimal coin, a cheap hammered which can be purchased from auction sites and a ring pull, even a gold ring if you want
Bury these at respectable depths that you would expect your machine to find them at, and then go over them, see how they sound, try a different direction.
Tweak the settings, see what makes a difference if anything
An hour spent doing this will give you valuable information and experience
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:01 pm

Much appreciated Jon!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:03 pm

Thanx blackadder,I’ll do that on Sunday when I go, much appreciated!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Resurgam » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:28 pm

Welcome to the forum Steve, plenty of good advice and support on here. The Ace250 is a nice little machine for you to enter the field of metal detecting. Pun intended! ;)

The Ace 250 is not too dissimilar to the EuroAce that I operated for a number of years and I found loads of good stuff with the standard coil, including several hammies. A lot of folk enter our hobby with loads of enthusiasm but throw in the towel after a short time of finding no treasure and digging loads of scrap. You have a couple of advantages going in your favour. You have permission to detect pasture, you have a nice light machine that you can swing all day without becoming exhausted, and you have plenty of good folk standing by to share your adventures and give advice when you request it.


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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:39 pm

Thanks Chris, and I’m loving entering the field lol, never one minute a thought of throwing the towel in just keen to learn mate,I’m addicted already , the advice I’ve had since I’ve joined has been fantastic with everybody being really supportive,a great future in detecting ahead of me I’m sure cheers mate!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Tetra73 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:47 pm

You won't find nice things every time you go out sometimes its weeks before a good find keep the coil low and slow and have fun and remember you have to walk over it to find it have patience and learn the machine, but never give up the nice find could be one swing away ::g

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:38 pm

Thanks tetra mate,I’ll have everything you guys have said going through my mind as I work the field on Sunday!! Many thanks mate!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by shaggybfc » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:07 am

Hi Steve,
I have some pasture land that I've been over several times with an Ace 250, only to find nothing but fairly modern junk. Then after upgrading to a Deus, went back over it again - this time to find more modern junk. Moral of this story being, with pasture land, items can either be far too deep to detect, simply not there or you haven't walked over them yet.
My advice would be, use in all metal mode, dig anything that gives a repeatable signal of 3 bars or more and make sure you go slow, especially if you hear lots of iron - the recovery speed of the Ace can mean you'll miss some items? Run as high a sensitivity as the ground will allow, normally full bars to 2 off max.
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Sat Feb 23, 2019 1:12 am

Thanks for the advice Andy mate!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by cantona1 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:04 am

The 250 is a very good machine, I started out with one and found loads of good things, have confidence in it and learn all about it and you will find your fair share. One tip, as the grass grows you will probably get signals when you hit the longer grass, when it happens turn the sensitivity down a smidge. Enjoy :D

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by garrettoldboy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:34 am

hello, what settings are you using on the 250?

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by kenleyboy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:19 am

My 250 gets an airing every now and again and I enjoy using it with the Tornado coil , run it in relic mode and sensitivity 1or 2 bars down and I have found some nice bits and pieces . Great machine to begin with , you can always upgrade later .
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by garrettoldboy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:36 am

garrettoldboy wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:34 am
hello, what settings are you using on the 250?
hello, you could also upgrade to the garret 9x12 DD coil or the NEL but bear in mind the extra weight. i found my Euro Ace with the 9x12 very good

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by carlburt78 » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:02 pm

On my first few outings I only found scrap ,but after each outing and after finding some nice bits and bobs, my confidence in what I was doing and learning the signals of my machine started getting better and better , I've also been on a few organised digs and have gained some valuable information from other guys using the same machine as me . On the last dig I learned I could have been leaving Hammies in the ground because I was paying too much attention to the ID numbers on my remote and not digging the good signals with low numbers .

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:08 pm

Thanks for the advice chaps, Garret old boy, I’m using it set on all metals with no discrimination with the sensitivity set on maximum to two bars back mate!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:38 pm

Carlburt 78 I think exactly the same thing is happening to me now mate,I’ll keep putting the hours in and I’m sure it will all become clearer lol!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by garrettoldboy » Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:25 pm

Beginner steve wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:08 pm
Thanks for the advice chaps, Garret old boy, I’m using it set on all metals with no discrimination with the sensitivity set on maximum to two bars back mate!👍
hello, if it is the same as the euro ace with controls and settings , look at the video by Regtons I set mine to custom mode, 7 bars on DISC 6 bars on SENSE,

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by ploughchaser » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:31 pm

Thanks for that Garrett old boy, I’ll have a look!👍

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Dominic2708 » Sat Mar 09, 2019 7:15 pm

Is the 250 Ace any good for detecting on beaches?

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Resurgam » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:21 am

Your ACE250 should be fine for coin shooting on dry sand but as said above it will commence giving you loads of false signals the moment that you swing it over wet saline beach sand. Backing off the sensitivity will get you by on the wet but you may always be wondering what you may be missing at deeper levels.

Don't wory too much about working wet sand just yet; get out there and enjoy your machine. ::g

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by pengles » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:19 am

Hi. Don't know if this will put your mind at rest, but I started with an Ace 250. Loved it, a great machine and I found some really nice stuff. I also dug loads of junk, as I'm sure everyone does to begin with, and I still do get fooled with signals and dig occasional junk. Can't be helped. Silver foil always gets me. I eventually changed to a Deus due to the fact it's very light and easier for an old codger to wave around for a few hours. But even now, some signals give numbers up in the 90's, which is normally a piece of rusty iron, but as been shown recently on this forum can also be lovely pieces of silver, so although more expensive machines can/do have advantages, if you wave your 250 over something nice it is likely to pick it up. Good luck.
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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Keef the Frog » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:24 am

Hi Steve,
Running my Ace 250/NEL Hunter on my own ground which was just grazing, it's set on full sensitivity & all metal as it works fine.
Previously, I couldn't understand why anyone would lower the sensitivity until I finally got to detect one of my permissions on Monday. I thought I'd search around the "Orangerie" that has hosted posh weddings & events & my Ace freaked out due to the amount of trash in the ground most of it left overs roofer's junk, zinc trimmings & slate clips give hoofing signals :)) .
I backed off the sensitivity by two pips & knocked off the iron & all was back to normal. I still came away with a load of trash but was a useful lesson ::g

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Re: Garret ace 250 on pasture

Post by Bors » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:37 am

Going through the periods of finding trash is only another way of a sort of apprenticeship . If nothing else your continually training your ears to the many different sounds. Each time you get a signal take a minute to listen to the signal from a few points of the compass passing ,ie N to S . W to E and so on. Take note on if is it a Large booming sound which can be a foot wide or is it a short sharp blip sound. All that helps you determine how big the target is and that will help you analyse as to whether its worth digging. Try Lifting your coil off the ground a foot above the signal if its a big blasting sound ,is the sound still there lifting the coil , if so,there`s a good chance its Large Iron if it is. All the information will be there. Its down to you to begin learning your detectors language. But It won`t happen in maybe weeks it could be longer for the penny to drop .But patience is the way forward.

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