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It is, always something new turning up, it is always best to air on the side of caution with anything unknown, the main thing to do in any situation is not to take anything home that you don't know exactly what it is. Just take a photo like you did, leave it on site in a safe and secure place, preferably back in the ground then once you have more idea what it is the EOD can be called in to deal with it, or if OK then safe to remove it.panzer wrote:.... Every days a learning day
The most common mistake people make is to transport it to either there home or take it to the Police. If live a criminal offence has been committed either way and the Police won't thank you for taking it to them lol !
With reference to nose cones, most are just mechanical clocks, the small charge (gaine) is normally fixed to the bottom of these, I have never found one live so they are generally safe, the ones to watch out for are Mortars and Hand Grenades, there was a high failure rate on Mortars and these need to be reported straight away
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We've lost more than 650 EOD Sappers since the end of WWII clearing mines and UXO's Worldwide, not a case of getting it "wrong", it's a dangerous job in the first place just clearing in to find these items, some of which are so unstable the slightest touch can set them off... like many have stated, if you uncover something you are not sure of and believe could possibly be Ordnance, place a marker close by and call the Police and explain exactly where it is in relation to your marker, what it looks like etc; the policies turn ill inform the military who will decide whose responsibility the said item belongs to for ID and positive action, i.e. Navy EOD, RAF EOD, RE EOD or RLC EOD... one word of advice I would give is if you unearth an item and it starts to "Smoke" then Get away from it quickly 300m or more and make sure no one goes near it as it will be a White Phosporous round, the danger with them is they have explosive bursters in them that disperse the White phosphorus and the bursters can take anything from a few seconds to a few minutes to go off depending where the WP has been opened to the air... I was in charge of a clearance section near Brighton on National Trust Land in my final year in the army and we were regularly uncovering WP rounds and these were no more than a few cm's below the ground on and around a bridleway... in Iraq we had lads killed by WP rounds and on one of my sites one of my teams evacuated a destroyed bunker they were clearing out very quickly when they spotted smoke rising from the rubble, a good 5 or 6 minutes later the mortar "burst/exploded" throwing WP over quite a large radius, they had correctly evacuated several hundred metres... on UX clearance if we are right next to one and we can cover it in earth or get it in water if it is clearly only the tail of the weapon then we do so, otherwise we get out of there and wait til it cooks off... BE CAREFUL OUT THERE, MANY OF THESE ITEMS WILL LITERALLY CUT YOU IN HALF!Christoph1945 wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2012 5:01 pmI was amazed when I learned how manny sappers were killed clearing our beaches of landmines following WWII!
Even with all their training, equipment, and military support...............they sometimes got it wrong.