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What do you dig with.

Post by nubsey » Thu May 02, 2019 1:57 pm

Hi all, I am still quite new to this game. I was wonering what people use to dig with. I have a small spade, which is called a mini spade from screwfix, but I am finding that the ground is very hard. It's double blimey hard work trying to dig it. Do I need a bigger spade or would I be better off with a decent fork.

What do you chaps use on hard ground.


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Post by Dave The Slave » Thu May 02, 2019 2:17 pm

For inland detecting a basic stainless steel border spade, that cost 7 pound on clearance from Wilko. Came with a 5 year guarantee, has served me well in very hard ground. No longer made but should be something similar elsewhere.
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Post by Lowland » Thu May 02, 2019 2:23 pm

Hi
For really baked or stony ground that’s pasture I break out one of these ::g
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bulld ... ip36CrlRdM
For hard stony arable a fork is a great way to go.
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Post by Pete E » Thu May 02, 2019 2:45 pm

nubsey wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 1:57 pm
Hi all, I am still quite new to this game. I was wonering what people use to dig with. I have a small spade, which is called a mini spade from screwfix, but I am finding that the ground is very hard. It's double blimey hard work trying to dig it. Do I need a bigger spade or would I be better off with a decent fork.

What do you chaps use on hard ground.
I started off with a similar mini spade similar to you..Wanting something longer and something perhaps that cut a bit more aggressively, I bought a Evolution Pro Cut via the MDF shop..

The service was excellent and the spade is a very well made bit of kit, but I am not a 100% sold on the design..

If I were buying again, I would not bother getting a spade with teeth. In normal pasture they are not needed and in hard ground with a mix of tree roots ect, I still struggle to get any sawing motion going. Its far easier and far quicker to expose the roots and snip them with a pair of secateurs ..

Secondly, on the Pro Cut, the main part of the blade is "narrowed" but the bit you place your foot on is left full width. This means you can get a hole started very easily, but once the hole gets the same depth as the "shoulders" they then start to hang up...Its not a major issue, rather more of an annoyance...

So if buying again, I would ask the people at Evo for a similar spade without the teeth and with less narrowing of the blade..

or I would buy a border spade and taper the blade to a point with an angle grinder...
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Post by targets » Thu May 02, 2019 3:00 pm

YEP THE EVOLUTION SPADE IS MEGA STRONG ..you wont bend it and it wont rust

if you dont want teeth just order it without and they will make it
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Post by littleboot » Thu May 02, 2019 3:38 pm

Enthusiasm. :D
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Post by thefiggis » Thu May 02, 2019 6:21 pm

nubsey wrote:
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What do you chaps use on hard ground.
Discretion. I don't like blisters, hence ending up in the pub early doors when it's hard going.

There's a great deal of choice and different tools suit different people, but whatever you decide on my advice is buy well and buy once. The Black Ada Gladius spade I have will see me out.
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Thu May 02, 2019 6:27 pm

One thats identical to an evolution- with teeth. And an evolution thin trowel for in hole precision work ::g

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Post by Roughwood » Thu May 02, 2019 10:29 pm

My occupation is garden maintenance, and I use a couple of my work tools when I go detecting - a Niwaki golden spade (Japanese) and a Schwann 'Wurtzelsepp' trowel (German.)

These are both excellent, durable tools and considerably cheaper than proprietery metal detecting products.

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Post by littleboot » Fri May 03, 2019 9:46 am

Lowland wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:23 pm
Hi
For really baked or stony ground that’s pasture I break out one of these ::g
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bulld ... ip36CrlRdM
For hard stony arable a fork is a great way to go.
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In France, when the ground gets very hard...particularly in old vineyards and woodland....a Mattock is the weapon of choice.
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Post by Roughwood » Fri May 03, 2019 10:31 am

I've often thought that a mattock or similar tool might be a good idea!
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Post by Pete E » Fri May 03, 2019 10:50 am

You can also get a mini pick with a yellow fibreglass handle which would work well or possibly even better, an army surplus ‘58 pattern infantry pick/entrenching tool....
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Post by f8met » Fri May 03, 2019 11:49 am

I use the draper mini and would buy another in a heart beat. I also have a black ada but they will bend if you are not careful and once they start you can't stop them. I bought the mini hand pick as Pete describes and last summer it did help a lot but you have to be careful you don't hit the target.
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Post by lonecoiler » Fri May 03, 2019 12:54 pm

littleboot wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 9:46 am
Lowland wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 2:23 pm
Hi
For really baked or stony ground that’s pasture I break out one of these ::g
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bulld ... ip36CrlRdM
For hard stony arable a fork is a great way to go.
Cheers
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Post by sweepstick47 » Fri May 03, 2019 1:47 pm

I know it's already been suggested - it's made by detectorist's for detectorists so in my view,
the Evo is the way to go.::g What do I dig with, well that would be a combination of hope, expectation and of course consideration to both the target and of course the landowners property.
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