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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:16 pm

I often spot fossils on the fields I detect. There’s is a very old quarry and another site near here where some stunning dinasour bones and other fossils have been found so it seems the geology was good for leaving impressions in.

Anyways as there is so much interest in fossils brought on by Mrix’s love of the gastropod I thought I’d throw these samples into the mix. I normally leave them in situ so this is just a very small sample from the last couple of weeks.

Paticularly interested in the black one as it looks like a backbone!
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Post by fred » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:33 pm

That's not a bad little collection at all. :D
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Post by mrix » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:42 pm

Hi Cath, interesting finds, nice to see your now more tuned in for finding fossils while out metal detecting ::g B-)
As you say the black fossil looks interesting, this topics has jogged my memory, I actually have a part of a backbone vertebrae a friend of mine found in the surf while we were looking for fossils at Compton Bay on the Isle of Wight around ten years ago, I`ll have to find out what its from ::g


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Post by Me and my boy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:07 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:16 pm
I often spot fossils on the fields I detect. There’s is a very old quarry and another site near here where some stunning dinasour bones and other fossils have been found so it seems the geology was good for leaving impressions in.

Anyways as there is so much interest in fossils brought on by Mrix’s love of the gastropod I thought I’d throw these samples into the mix. I normally leave them in situ so this is just a very small sample from the last couple of weeks.

Paticularly interested in the black one as it looks like a backbone!

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“ I usually leave these but”
I could not walk past and leave anything like that.
I would prefer to find them than a lot of the knackered hammies I find round here.

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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 pm

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“ I usually leave these but”
I could not walk past and leave anything like that.
I would prefer to find them than a lot of the knackered hammies I find round here.
Really? No I think they live there, in the field. I’ll bring these back and leave them where I found them. I’ve only kept one i found ages ago that looks like a mushroom head but was probably a mini jelly fish type thing. Its cute and tactile.

I find them fascinating but I don’t need to ‘own’ them.
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Post by Phil2401 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:56 pm

I can't add any advice or interesting info here but like most of us I suppose when the signals are few and far between I'm always on the lookout for worked flints or anything else that might keep me awake and interested in an otherwise unproductive field. Fossils are rare on my usual permissions / club digs (or at least are not near the surface) - one or two Ammonites here and there but never found anything really interesting in paleontological terms (it took me 5 minutes to spell that). Personally I'd be thrilled to find the sort of stuff you're finding and would definitely keep and try to identify it! Mind you Cath you're not a Roman fan either - I'd be more than happy to add your unwanted Romans to my meagre collection :) Horses for courses:)

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Post by Me and my boy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:03 pm

Oxgirl36 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 pm
Me and my boy wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:07 pm

“ I usually leave these but”
I could not walk past and leave anything like that.
I would prefer to find them than a lot of the knackered hammies I find round here.
Really? No I think they live there, in the field. I’ll bring these back and leave them where I found them. I’ve only kept one i found ages ago that looks like a mushroom head but was probably a mini jelly fish type thing. Its cute and tactile.

I find them fascinating but I don’t need to ‘own’ them.
Gore blimmey I never thought of it like that. Does that mean I need to leave the hammered coins too? 😀

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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:13 pm

Me and my boy wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:03 pm
Oxgirl36 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:15 pm
Me and my boy wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:07 pm

“ I usually leave these but”
I could not walk past and leave anything like that.
I would prefer to find them than a lot of the knackered hammies I find round here.
Really? No I think they live there, in the field. I’ll bring these back and leave them where I found them. I’ve only kept one i found ages ago that looks like a mushroom head but was probably a mini jelly fish type thing. Its cute and tactile.

I find them fascinating but I don’t need to ‘own’ them.
Gore blimmey I never thought of it like that. Does that mean I need to leave the hammered coins too? 😀
No - double standards are allowed :D i need to own every bit of metal stuff around. Silver metal coins of the medieval variety must be saved ;))
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:15 pm

Phil2401 wrote:
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Mind you Cath you're not a Roman fan either - I'd be more than happy to add your unwanted Romans to my meagre collection :) Horses for courses:)

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You can have my rubbish Roman coins and my fossil collection with my pleasure. Well except for the mushroom shaped one. Doesn’t extend to artefacts though, or if i find any precious metal Roman coins. I think i might be able to bring myself to love them :D
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Post by thefiggis » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:40 pm

Lucky you to have such an abundance that you can choose to leave such riches behind! Despite being littered with stones, my fields rarely produce fossils and when they do pop up they're in my sky rocket toot flamin sweet.
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Post by littleboot » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:44 pm

The whole point of coins...hammies, milled, silver, roman, whatever....is to be 'owned'...... that is why they were made to begin with. Their raison d'etre . So it is totally in keeping and right that they should be saved from the wilderness they have ended up in and put back to their intended use.

Fossils however....very different. Part of the living landscape and to be taken...or left in situ...with discretion. Having said that, I live near a famous fossil beach and ammonites and such present themselves on every visit. Its like everything else....its valuable and worth having if its rare.
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Post by HolzHammer » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:45 pm

I can't leave 'em - I like to own 'em.... here's a latest echinoid joining the club!
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Post by poly » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:06 pm

A nice range of fossils there, well found Oxgirl36.

I can see where you are coming from re the 'black' fossil which superficially looks like a section of backbone vertebrae. This specimen is actually a mold fragment of a large high spired gastropod.

Keep looking !

Love the echinoids Holzhammer, plenty of folklore associated with these.
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Post by Ladybird66 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:09 pm

The above conversation reminds me of ‘Flog It’. The number of times people turn up with stuff they’ve inherited and say they don’t like it. TILL they hear how much it’s worth :D

Lucky you having a source of fossils to collect. I have a few that I’ve gathered over the years but I do mean years, on the ground and under it.

Keep picking them up Cath, you’ll soon recognise that special one that you will just have to keep ::g

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Post by Ladybird66 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:16 pm

Just a thought but did you realise it’s against the law ? Local or otherwise ? To take Stones off the beach.

(I’ve done that as well ) rl;

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Post by Phil2401 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:22 pm

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Just a thought but did you realise it’s against the law ? Local or otherwise ? To take Stones off the beach.

(I’ve done that as well ) rl;
Are you quite sure that 'stones' includes fossil remains? And yes, many a herbaceous border has been defined by beach -related pebbles - mea culpa...

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Post by Ladybird66 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:26 pm

Phil2401 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:22 pm
Ladybird66 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:16 pm
Just a thought but did you realise it’s against the law ? Local or otherwise ? To take Stones off the beach.

(I’ve done that as well ) rl;
Are you quite sure that 'stones' includes fossil remains? And yes, many a herbaceous border has been defined by beach -related pebbles - mea culpa...

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Sad to say Phil that the uninitiated and uninterested would see them as nothing more than bits of old stone. :((. We know that even a pebble can tell it’s iwn story ::g

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Post by poly » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:36 pm

It’s certainly not against the law to collect fossils or stones from a beach or elsewhere unless there are strict SSSI laws in place or where specific council bylaws apply.

However, fossils are a limited resource and I have always advised my students to just to collect a sample specimen for their own collection, albeit the best they can find. For anyone who has an iPhone the Natural History Museuem has a nice little fossil app which uses GPS technology and will tell you the common fossils you are likely to encounter in any location in England, Wales and Scotland. It’s free too !
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:49 pm

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I can't leave 'em - I like to own 'em.... here's a latest echinoid joining the club!
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Now one of my neighbours found one of them and they are gorgeous and would be coming home with me too ::g
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:52 pm

Ladybird66 wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:16 pm
Just a thought but did you realise it’s against the law ? Local or otherwise ? To take Stones off the beach.

(I’ve done that as well ) rl;
These aren’t from a beach, just for the record. I live in land locked Oxfordshire :D ::g Even I find it hard to believe how so many water fossils ended up here. I guess they must have been freshwater :-/
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Post by Ladybird66 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:12 pm

I know that Cath, wasn’t suggesting anything other. ::g

I wonder though if we’re not s’pose to take Stones off the beach, why not the fields.
The why for beaches is, they say, because if everyone who visited a beach took a couple of stones home the beaches would get washed away x; :)) :)) daft burgers !

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Post by poly » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:45 pm

Oxgirl36 you need to read a book on geology, stratigraphy and plate tectonics which will explain why you are finding marine fossils in your fields in landlocked Oxfordshire.

I was showing several people some marine fossils on a recent field trip to Snowdonia, near the summit of Snowdon - and posed the question how did these get here ?
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Post by Me and my boy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:02 pm

poly wrote:
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Oxgirl36 you need to read a book on geology, stratigraphy and plate tectonics which will explain why you are finding marine fossils in your fields in landlocked Oxfordshire.

I was showing several people some marine fossils on a recent field trip to Snowdonia, near the summit of Snowdon - and posed the question how did these get here ?
Give us a clue then, I haven’t got enough time to read and understand all that. Just a very basic layman’s terminology will suit me😂

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Post by Me and my boy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:02 pm

HolzHammer wrote:
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I can't leave 'em - I like to own 'em.... here's a latest echinoid joining the club!
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Wow that’s art in its self.

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Post by mrix » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:06 pm

I guess its due to the tectonic plates movements, 100 million years ago plus, our country was in a different position in the world, climate was different and Caths area was totally under water / sea at that point in time.
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Post by Me and my boy » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:11 pm

mrix wrote:
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I guess due to the tectonic plates movements, 100 million years ago plus, our country was in a different position in the world, climate was different and Caths area was totally under water / sea at that point in time.
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Post by Ladybird66 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:03 am

poly wrote:
Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:45 pm

I was showing several people some marine fossils on a recent field trip to Snowdonia, near the summit of Snowdon - and posed the question how did these get here ?
Where have you been all these years poly ? I’ve tried a few times to get on an organised walk but each time I’ve been too late. Either missed it or no more places.
I’ve seen several teams on the beach, with an instructor, inspecting the geology of the cliffs around S/W Wales. its a fascinating coastline.
I picked up a fossil of Club Root Moss a few years ago. I learned it comes from the Carboniferous period, about 400 million years ago, if I remember right..
This was when our little bit of the world was much further south and before the dinosaurs evolved.
Seems it comes out of the coal seams and is a common find around this area.

Sorry if I high-jacked your thread Cath :)

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Post by Keef the Frog » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:18 pm

Richard Fortey's "The Hidden Landscape" is a good read, without too much dry science, on Britain's geological history.

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