ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

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Post by Bors » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:44 pm

toy cannon wheel



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Post by boywonderwilson » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:54 pm

It a wheel tap off a water valve

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Post by Bradrick » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:10 pm

Only a first look, but I'm going for a wheel from a toy wagon, cannon, or similar. If it is, I'd say '40s - '60s.

I reserve the right to have another stab later, and that will be exactly what Al says! ;)
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Post by Allectus » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:25 pm

Georgian toy bronze cannon carriage wheel.

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Post by Shaneb3 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:33 pm

Tap handle

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Post by Saki » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:15 pm

Toy Cannon wheel from Napoleonic war. So 1850's, well 1857 to be exact😂😁😂
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Post by Junior » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:21 pm

Woz going to say a stop valve top...but then read again ...France ummm some over here ...I'll go for some thing military...... sight adjusting wheel !!!???? From 1st ww ...prob 200 yrs out ??

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ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by thefiggis » Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:06 pm

YOOHOO! It's here d;]

*waves frantically at those who've entered and innocent passers-by, both of which parties are wondering what in the name of Beezelbub's Great and Warty Snout can possibly be going on* (see below)


Quoi ho, tout le monde ::g

Mais alors, and all that. Today's challenge is brought to you by our sponsor Littleboot's Detecting Parlour & Vinyard "All you can find and drink for a quid".

Already identified, it was found in France but similar have been found elsewhere, including the UK.

Huge and heartfelt thanks to Littleboot's kindness in offering the object for the ID challenge, and remember - if you have anything knocking about, IDed or not, that you'd like to have included in this series then just drop any mod a PM.

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Post by hd1958 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:51 pm

possibly part of a clock mechanism

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Post by Spearhead » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:05 pm

A wheel from a toy.

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Post by shaggybfc » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:17 pm

I was initially thinking it was a Medieval 6 spoke roulette, since it's one of Littleboot's French finds, but not seeing the rim edge, I'm not sure. A bit like this one. https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/210265
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Post by KruzerUser » Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:46 pm

Cast iron toy cannon wheel.
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Post by Bootneck45RM » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:37 pm

Miniature (broke) wheel of a toy cannon.
If they were this size it no wonder Wellington did so well.
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Post by Lowland » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:42 pm

Out of a clock?
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by thefiggis » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:50 pm

The idea of this series is for us to practice identification and hopefully learn something. One lesson learned from this particular exercise is never let figgis anywhere near technology, for no good will ever come of it and darkness that way lays. Sorry for the mess of some responses appearing before the OP, an unusual phenomenon caused by all the other mods fouling up and nothing at all to do with me trying to be clever early doors. Je suis desole, mes amis rl;

Anyway, on with the motley...

As ever, very many thanks to all who lobbed their hats into the ring and had a go ::g

And this is the bit where I probably get lynched and would be best advised to leave the thread locked...

The ideas submitted were all along the same lines as I would have said, but we were all wrong. It is in fact a votive Wheel of Taranis and is Celtic in date.

While realising that on this forum we only have images to go by and that actually having this object in our mitts might well have led us to think differently of it, the idea of using this item as a challenge was in the hope that it would serve as an object lesson to us all that some of the "toot" consigned to the scrap bin may be more than it seems and unless we're certain that it's tat it should be kept. Just in case.

Me, I'd have probably just stuffed it in the "interesting" box where it would have resided for years to come.

Once again, many thanks to Littleboot for contributing this for the challenge series - it really is appreciated ::g

It would be very interesting to hear if anyone has had a lovely surprise from a "meh" object.
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Post by Bors » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:00 pm

quote thefiggis ,.. " It would be very interesting to hear if anyone has had a lovely surprise from a "meh" object. "

Oh gawd , your making me sort through about 10 Quality Sweet tins now in the Man Cave in the Morning.

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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by thefiggis » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:10 pm

Bors wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:00 pm
Oh gawd , your making me sort through about 10 Quality Sweet tins now in the Man Cave in the Morning.
Good ::g ;)
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by shaggybfc » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:29 pm

Hey, I was very close, it was a rouelles..... and I said a roulette wheel,,,,, almost the same letters :)) :))
OK I said medieval,,, only a few year out ;)

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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by thefiggis » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:39 pm

shaggybfc wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:29 pm
OK I said medieval,,, only a few year out ;)
The closest, age-wise, by a distance, Andi :)

Difficult to assess from images alone, but hats off for looking beyond the obvious. I didn't ::g
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by littleboot » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:41 pm

Glad you had fun with it. I must admit I thought it was a toy canon wheel myself to begin with. But there was something about the context which inspired me to seek another opinion.
The item was found along with several other items of Celtic date and with religious connection..as well as a few Roman bits....and pretty much nothing else. (The field is otherwise a 'spade-toucher' except for this very small area on the edge of a ploughed out ridgeway where I have found an electrum stater) Its now in the local museum along with the complete beehive Quern I found on the same field.
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:02 pm

For those who, like me, have no idea what these Taranis things really are here’s a tiny bit of history for you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taranis

Great challenge and lovely find Littleboot ::g
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by sweepstick47 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 8:33 pm

Well that was a very entertaining and educational challenge, well done to all contributors ::g
I almost admit to believing it to be a wheel from a 'Dinky' toy field gun of the 1950s ;;z (tie him to a gun carriage for flogging). Top competition item from littleboot ::g ss47
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Re: ID Challenge No. 11/Spot the Competition competition

Post by Bootneck45RM » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:43 pm

What a tease - how to turn something thought to be so obvious completely on its head.
A brilliant learning curve and a great lesson in lateral thinking.
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