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Whites classic iii

Post by komet » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:10 pm

I have a classic iii which I have owned from new. Does anyone know if small or larger coils were made for it?



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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Roberts » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:46 pm

Yes there are coils for the classic III, a few models were the bluemax series. There are probably a few other brands that will fit but i can not remember, you could look around on the net & forums etc for more information.

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NOTE: it is known that the larger whites classic coils miss out on smaller targets such as romans and hammereds. There exists an elliptical coil which is better for smaller targets.

good luck. ::g
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Koala » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:51 pm

Not all Whites Classics coils are interchangeable.

Not sure if this is complete. But simplest thing to do is read what is stamped on the coil lug and keep it the same. Hopefully it will be 8B as they are the easiest to get.

On the left mounting tab of the coil, where the rod connects to it is the coil winding designation code. Examples ; 6B , D5 , G , B4 etc.....


D4 and D5 coils were used on the 6000/D and 6/DB detectors only !! These were available in 8 inch and 15 inch.


B4 and B5 coils were used on the 4/DB and 5000/D detectors only !! Available in 8 inch and 15 inch sizes.


6B coils were used on the "series 2" , the "series 3", the PRO units, the Classics, and on the Classic I SL and Classic II SL. The 6B coil sizes were 4 inch, 8 inch, 10 inch and 15 inch.

A "F" coil was made called a Blue Max 256, which was a 10 inch coil to be used on all the detectors that used the 6B coils. It was lighter than the standard 10 inch and was similar in performance to the present 9 1/2 inch coils. This is the ONLY Blue Max coil that you can use on the 6B detectors. All these coils were whites colored with a blue/white decals on the coil.


The present coils, most commonly called the Blue Max coils, used on the XLT, IDX series, PRL-1, Classic III, and Sierra Madre detectors, have the following codes on them ; 8B , G , HI, .

The Blue Max coils are available in these sizes ; 4 inch, 4X6 DD, 6 inch, 8 inch, 9 1/2 inch and 15 inch. They are known as the Blue Max 350, Blue Max 600, Bullseye 5.3, Blue Max 800, Royal 800, Blue Max 7.8, Blue Max 950, Precision Scan 950, and Blue Max 1500 . All these coils are interchangable. Most of these coils are black colored with many different color decals on the coil. They are NOT made to be used on units that take the 6B design !!!! Using these coils in place of the 6B coils will have varying results. The detector will not ground balance properly, DISC settings will be off, and target ID's will not be accurate. Similar problems will result in using the 6B coils on the 8B detectors, even though the connectors will fit on the control box, they are wired differently.
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by komet » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:55 pm

Thanks for the replys. Anyone know where to get them from please?

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Easylife » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:03 pm

komet wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:55 pm
Thanks for the replys. Anyone know where to get them from please?
Maybe that auction site? x;
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Roberts » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:03 pm

Maybe fleabay or similar sites.

Edit: Ahh ninja'd by Easy life :D :D

you also might be able to order one through a detection store. ::g
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by beep-and-dig » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:34 pm

Give Whites U K in Inverness a call,nice people to deal with.

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Koala » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:55 pm

Out of curiosity which coil came with it. I have one and wouldn't recommend going too big unless you like digging really deep bits of aluminium cans. 8"-9" is the sweet spot in the fields near me.

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Easylife » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:05 am

A Whites classic III SL was my first detector but is now only used these days by the wife on the beach. The standard coil is very stable giving positive ID's without falsing even on the beach. If I remember right you can manually fine tune the ground balance better by inserting a screwdriver in the hole under the sticker if you wish. It's a solid machine but does not get any great depth so maybe a more recent detector would be a better choice for extra performance than just changing the coil?
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by komet » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:09 pm

Looked on my blue max coil for id number. It reads .c 0363 any thoughts?

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Easylife » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:59 pm

I think that is the serial number as mine is about 100 higher. The "C" is the coil type, and this being a single frequency machine any White's "C" type coil should be ok.
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Koala » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:41 pm

komet wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:09 pm
Looked on my blue max coil for id number. It reads .c 0363 any thoughts?
I take it's the black coloured coil if so any of the current range should fit. You should double check with the number\letter stamped in to the coil lug. You might have to unbolt the coil.

There were several versions of the Classic III. Original, SL and Plus.


I have both a white and black 8" coils from the Classic III these defernetly do not work the Classic III SL, Plus or ID, IDX or IDX Pro. They physically fit. But false all the time due to the ground balance being off.

Both the SL and Plus will take any coil for the XLT, XL Pro, Quantum's, Classic III SL, ID, IDX and IDX Pro

But the original Classic III takes the older type coils.

Far more info here

https://www.ahrps.org/forums/read.php?2 ... 9#msg-2269

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by komet » Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:54 am

Thanks for the info. So I have a classic iii with a black , blue max 950 coil that is marked with a C. I now have to find a 5.3 coil with the same C code?

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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by Koala » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:37 am

Never heard of c 0363 is that the number on the label. As far as I known the numbers on the label is just the part number for the label

Here's one of mine that's stamped in to the left lug. I did have to remove the bolt and it's fairly faint to read.
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The fact its a blue max 950 coil. All of the blue/black max coils will work except for the white Blue Max 256.

The blue max 950 is the best large coil in my opinion. Go any bigger and large iron become a problem. Turn up the discrimination and you loose have the depth on thin silver kind of self defeating.
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Re: Whites classic iii

Post by komet » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:40 pm

That's the same place I found my number. Have been in touch with whites. They are offering me a small coil 6"X3"" anyone used this type?

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