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Coil Cover

Post by rayc59 » Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am

You would think that Deus would make a better coil cover after all their detectors are second to none, but i have worn out one, lost one and am now putting tape on the third one as it keeps falling of and it not that old and at £19 a pop not cheap, mines is the 9" old style so come on deus if they are inferior to your machine change the design or cut the cost for something that must cost penny's to make.
Update to coil cover well that is another one just ordered but going back on my Regton account i see that my last replacement was 17/02 19 and this is the 07/12/19 now that is on 10 months old and its worn out with the side all split, in saying this i do use my detector a lot sometimes three times a week but surely they can beef them up a bit on the bottom and sides or charge half the price for a bit of cheap made plastic :( :(
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Bors » Wed May 08, 2019 2:34 pm

rayc59 wrote:
Wed May 08, 2019 10:57 am
You would think that Deus would make a better coil cover after all their detectors are second to none, but i have worn out one, lost one and am now putting tape on the third one as it keeps falling of and it not that old and at £19 a pop not cheap, mines is the 9" old style so come on deus if they are inferior to your machine change the design or cut the cost for something that must cost penny's to make.
If you do buy another new one. You might want to try putting a bead of Bathroom silicon all around the edge of the coil cover on the inside of the coil cover to seal any water or dirt from getting in. It will also never fall off.
it can get a bit messy putting the bead around it but if you take your time and just a small cut off the nozzle on the silicon tube when new, it will only come out of the end in a small thin bead and it's easier to control. After you just wipe away any excess with a rag dampened with white spirit just to clean it up tidy. Once set, it will last for years as long as you didn`t miss anywhere going around the edge of your coil.

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed May 08, 2019 3:06 pm

Never had a problem. Do you remove it a lot?
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by shaggybfc » Wed May 08, 2019 3:38 pm

My cover comes of pretty regularly for a clean - 11". Leave the coil and cover in some warm water for 3-4 mins and it pops off easily. I put the cover near the radiator of a few mins before snapping it back on. It's never broken or worn since I've had the machine.
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Chilgrove » Wed May 08, 2019 5:35 pm

Yes that is the best way to remove. In some warm water for a few minutes just to soften/expand the plastic. Probably better to not use hot water as electronics don't like extremes of temperature. I have had mine for 6 years with no issues. (11" and 9" black coils).

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Deanoiow » Mon May 13, 2019 1:03 am

I find this interesting , I used to rinse my coil off under water from time to time to get out any sand etc,
Then I was told they can get water inside the coil and then need to get repaired? So now I worry ?

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Saffron » Mon May 13, 2019 4:05 am

Deanoiow wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:03 am
I find this interesting , I used to rinse my coil off under water from time to time to get out any sand etc,
Then I was told they can get water inside the coil and then need to get repaired? So now I worry ?

Dean I do not use a Deus but think that these days nearly all coils are waterproof and can not imagine that the Deus is not.

As others have said place the covered coil in warm water to make the cover more pliable and easier to remove when cleaning the coil, because dirt / sand will always work its way between the coil and cover. I have done this with Garret 250, Makro Racer 2, Nox 800 and never had any issues.

The one and only time I have damaged a coil cover is when stupidly trying to remove one without placing it in warm water first (I was in a hurry and trying to save time rl; )

Obviously if you damage the coil itself and water then gets in it needs repairing! But water should not get into a coil under normal circumstances.


Rayc59, my suspicion is that your problem is due to removing the coil cover without placing it in warm water first and that this eventually results in damage to it and / or a poor fit and is causing your problem as I have never known anybody else have issues like you describe.

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Bors » Mon May 13, 2019 7:41 am

I might be wrong but I read the guy`s issue as....... his coil cover becomes ill-fitting not that long after first buying it, due to a not so good "tight" fit in the first place, not he couldn`t get them off and tried just pulling it off.
Actually, I have heard of people having the issue he states. Whether its poor batches of certain coil covers made I don`t know, but my first thought would have been when the ill-fitting coil cover was first bought, I would have returned it from whichever shop sold them to me and asked for a replacement rather than carry on putting up with a faulty coil cover which was never up to the job in the first place.
I`ve had XP coil covers to put on myself in the past but been lucky that I`d never had a problem with one, but that`s not to say out of the what must be many thousands of coil covers produced some will be possibly faulty.
The way I did mine though is as I previously said, I gave my coil covers a bead of Bathroom silicon mastic to seal them on, and I never ever had to replace one after that or clean in between the coil cover and the coil .

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Junior » Mon May 13, 2019 10:09 am

A few small black tieraps works , then just cut of when u clean under it...get them from work so free ::g

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Easylife » Mon May 13, 2019 11:31 am

Junior wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:09 am
A few small black tieraps works ,...get them from work so free ::g
Well they normally cost about a penny each, so guess quite a saving!!! :D
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Easylife » Mon May 13, 2019 11:46 am

Deanoiow wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 1:03 am
I used to rinse my coil off under water from time to time to get out any sand etc,
Then I was told they can get water inside the coil and then need to get repaired? So now I worry ?
No need to worry at all, they are completely waterproof and can be submerged, also covered by warranty. The exception is if the casing or resin infill gets cracked which can then allow water ingress, so it's best not to bash it against rocks. :D
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Deanoiow » Mon May 13, 2019 12:40 pm

What warranted is there on coils ? How long ?

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Post by Junior » Mon May 13, 2019 1:04 pm

Easylife wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 11:31 am
Junior wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 10:09 am
A few small black tieraps works ,...get them from work so free ::g
Well they normally cost about a penny each, so guess quite a saving!!! :D
Penny's make £ ....supposedly :D

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by GeorgeMK » Mon May 13, 2019 1:14 pm

Deanoiow wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 12:40 pm
What warranted is there on coils ? How long ?
It’s in the manual. Screenshot attached.
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Post by Easylife » Mon May 13, 2019 3:22 pm

Either the original purchase receipt or a copy is required for the 5 year warranty to be valid. ::g
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Bors » Mon May 13, 2019 3:49 pm

Easylife wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:22 pm
Either the original purchase receipt or a copy is required for the 5 year warranty to be valid. ::g
Yes, and that's easier said than done. Try getting the original Receipt with a second-hand coil. You`d be surprised at the number of people that don`t bother keeping their receipts.

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Post by Easylife » Mon May 13, 2019 7:36 pm

Bors wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:49 pm
Easylife wrote:
Mon May 13, 2019 3:22 pm
Either the original purchase receipt or a copy is required for the 5 year warranty to be valid. ::g
Yes, and that's easier said than done. Try getting the original Receipt with a second-hand coil. You`d be surprised at the number of people that don`t bother keeping their receipts.
Well that's their own choice. But you may have a good point as I have noticed that not many Deus or coils seem to be advertised for sale with the purchase receipt warranty.
Even so, the retailer would surely still no doubt have a copy with serial numbers when sold so it seems quite a cop out by them and XP to avoid some warranty claims. Certain other manufacturers do not require such stringent requirements as they already have on record when any of their detectors were sold. x; :D
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by rayc59 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:41 pm

Bord is 100% correct this coil cover seems to be made of inferior material compared to the original one that came with the deus. Was just saying at the start it's a lot of money for a small bit of plastic I now keeping it on with electrical tape

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by geoman » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:46 pm

Mine is two years old and is now held on by tape to stop it dropping off when in use.

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Chilgrove » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:53 am

I have never had any issues in 7 years of use. I too use warm water to help soften the cover before taking it off, especially in winter time. Also warm it slightly before replacing. Electronics do not appreciate sudden extreme variations in temperature so warm water only, not hot. Half an inch of warm water in the kitchen sink, leave about 15 seconds, before removing cover.

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by pengles » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:03 pm

Touch wood I have never had an issue with the cover falling off. I take it off regularly to clean the debris out and don't have to warm it first, just pull it off, clean it and put it back on. Seems OK, but if it became a problem a few small cable ties would sort it out.
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Oxgirl36 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:37 pm

Leaving by a radiator or in the sun/ other warm place works well too if you prefer not to use water.

If you have a HF coil you'll always have it tightly attached. They have extra clips on the cover - they really are a swine to remove x;
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by rayc59 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:41 pm

Update to coil cover well thats another one just ordered but going back on my Regton account i see that my last replacement was 17/02 19 now that is on 10 months old and its worn out with the side all split, in saying this i do use my detector a lot sometimes three times a week but surely they can beef them up a bit on the bottom and sides or charge half the price for a bit of cheap made plastic :( :(

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by maylandmanta » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:22 pm

I have no idea if this works but read somewhere that a guy was using a suitably sized frisbee drilled around the edge and held on with cable ties as a cheap alternative - £2 a pop on a certain auction site.

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Post by rayc59 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:12 pm

Maylandmanta lol thanks for that tip the Frisbee would certainly be thicker but i think that is maybe going a bit to far :) :)

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by ratty » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:20 am

An old chap i used to know cut pvc tubing and put it around the rim of the coil, elegant it was not but it prevented the coil from rocks and the like. Where the two ends met was secured with a dob of hot melt glue. :)

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Re: Coil Cover

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:38 am

I agree that £19 is a lot for a bit of plastic. However I used my detector as much as you do it seems and, whilst scuffed a lot, it is still perfect.

You must be actually rubbing it on the ground to wear through the plastic. Maybe the trick with your next one is to attach some cable ties to your coil with the tie bit on the face of the coil. Then cut off the ‘tail’ bit of them. You’ll be left with a few mm of plastic which will act as a buffer, lifting the coil slightly from the ground.

If you take it off and wash it a lot it would be a pain but otherwise it might protect your cover from as much wear. Just a thought. I’m impressed that you can keep your coil that low all the time to result in wearing through the cover ::g
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Re: Coil Cover

Post by rayc59 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:15 pm

I totally agree with you oxigirl i do keep my coil close to the ground old habits die hard stems from using whites old TR machines when you wanted to be as close to the ground as possible, anyway the cable tie would probably work but should we really need to go down this road when you are paying £22 with postage added for a product that simply does not do the job.
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