I had to get a handle on it

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I had to get a handle on it

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:16 am

Pun intended! =))

So after a morning not finding much on an organised dig I thought I’d drop in on my own permission on the way home. It was such a pleasure to be on my favourite field. The grass is super short and, apart from a few patches that gets very wet, the rest is just right, not muddy and the plugs come out in one whole piece.

Everything is deep here - spade depth minimum, usually more - but it’s perfect soil to get deep targets, especially as you can swing so low.

Went to an area I’d barely visited before and immediately found this handle.
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Not two feet away the first stud (left one) was found. I assumed it could be a furniture one being so close to the handle but halfway across the field (not nearby) I found another one. Not the same but similar. This one still has the leather in the back so assume they were some sort of strap fitting :D
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It was definitely a fitting sort if day cause I then found another handle! Never seen another one like it. Made of bronze and wood, it has obviously broken of the stem that would have gone through the door or other item. Amazing to still see the wood, even if it is well nibbled. It looks like the wood had been blackened and the bronze may have been painted black too originally.
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Then, as this is known as the buckle field I found part of a buckle followed by this whole one, although in two pieces - late 17th or early 18th century.
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Found loads of other bits and pieces too, including another (broken) buckle, a toasted coin and the obligatory musket balls. I had about 90 minutes before the light started fading but I left with a grin on my face.

So views on dates for the handles. They feel 17th century. Everything on this field is medieval (with a sprinkling of earlier stuff) or 17th century. Surely these must be too? And what was the brass and wooden handle used for? Views very welcome on that too :-*

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by detecting rod » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 am

do you ever stop to eat and drink,you make us all so jealous with your amazing finds ,seems daily

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Roughwood » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:57 am

Nice selection! ::g
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Spearhead » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:44 am

The first handle is probably from a chaffing dish. 16th- 17th century.

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by lonecoiler » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:48 am

I could hazard a guess at o e of the items but I would probably be banned. B| :;@
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:55 pm

Spearhead wrote:
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The first handle is probably from a chaffing dish. 16th- 17th century.
Thanks Spearhead. I’ll look into that ::g
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Oxgirl36 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:56 pm

detecting rod wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:52 am
do you ever stop to eat and drink,you make us all so jealous with your amazing finds ,seems daily
Lol I only detect for around 4 hours a week on average. I’ve had a couple of weeks of no finds recently so don’t be fooled =))
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Phil2401 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:32 pm

That copper alloy / wood handle is unusual.... the patina obviously suggests considerable age but how has the wood survived? Hopefully it doesn't disintegrate as it dries out - I'd be tempted to bury it in the garden to retain its moisture content, or keep it moist some other way, just as you would if retrieving a timber shipwreck, at least until you get a positive ID. It does certainly look like a door handle or some sort of lever - interesting...

The black bit might suggest that the wood was impregnated with something similar to coal tar / bitumen using the centuries-old hot & cold open tank method, but that's unlikely - doing that you'd just get a sticky handle!

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by thefiggis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:14 pm

Great day out there with some cracking finds ::g

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Pete01 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:01 pm

Nice selection of finds! ::g and looks like an interesting piece of hard wood, but I'd be cautious of splinters so maybe a light coating of varnish before mounting for display purposes would be advisable.

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Swany » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:48 pm

Great stuff Oxgirl, love the wee studs, those buckles aren't too shabby either, like the ones with those tongues ::g
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:13 pm

Found a match for the first handle - it’s way earlier than any of us thought - 1270-1350 if the PAS database is right. Well chuffed. https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/949477

This field has viking to 17th century but tends to be in distinct parts of the field. This section is a part I’d not done before so I might go back over that bit again on my next trip OooO

Edit - or up to 1600 https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts ... /id/920696 Give up ;;z
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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by bob79 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 pm

Seems like you have got too much time on your hands these days Cath, hopefully I will be able to join you in doing research in the not too distance future ::g

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Incognito » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:33 pm

Copper and copper based salts (corrosion) protect wood from all sorts, might be a reason it lasted. If the ground is permanently wet at the depth found then anaerobic conditions might protect it also.

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:41 pm

bob79 wrote:
Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:31 pm
Seems like you have got too much time on your hands these days Cath, hopefully I will be able to join you in doing research in the not too distance future ::g

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Re: I had to get a handle on it

Post by Bypass2 » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:44 pm

Nice selection of finds. well done ::g

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