Barnstaple trade token

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Barnstaple trade token

Post by cantona1 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:33 pm

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It was freezing out there today, the wind so strong I could barely hear the pinpointer signal, I managed a couple of hours until common sense got the better of me, just the one notable find, the lovely little Barnstaple token shown above, it was found just 5 miles from Barnstaple in one of our stubble fields, this is the fourth we have found, two of Henry Brayerle 1663 of Bideford, 12 miles away, one that Dioz identified as George Titherley of Great Torrington 1666 about 20 miles away, one unidentifiable and now the one above, you can clearly see Barn and an S and G but not the rest, anybody have any ideas or point me to a source with photos? I cannot get an ID at the moment.
Found with the Q40 on custom at 4-5 inches deep.
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Re: Barnstaple trade token

Post by Oxgirl36 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:43 pm

One of my favourite things l;. Is there anything on the back, or is it too far gone?
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Post by cantona1 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:52 pm

Yes I really like these local tokens, it's a bit of local history that you can touch ::g My favourite is the 1666 (Great Fire of London) one, I wonder if they even knew about it down here? Unfortunately the back is toasted, there are letters but impossible to read, what I really want is a list of Devonian tokens with images which I've not been able to find. Thanks for looking ::g

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Re: Barnstaple trade token

Post by DiOz » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:57 pm

It's probably this one.........

O. PHILIP . SOMERS . OF = A star.
R. BARNSTAPLE . 1662 = P . G . S.

Devonshire #20 in Williamson's book (with no pic)....
http://www.archive.org/stream/tradetoke ... 0/mode/1up
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Post by cantona1 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:32 pm

Brilliant thanks again Dioz, I had just stumbled across that name myself, can't find out what he did though but will keep trying, it seems that you could spend these anywhere in the local area if the business owner knew that the issuer of the token was reputable, they would keep them separate and cash them in at a later date, I think this was a period when small change was in very short supply.

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Post by DiOz » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:08 am

Did you put your "unidentifiable" token up for ID?
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Post by Oxgirl36 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:23 am

He had a court record. It’s not on line so will require more work. Be interested to know what he did for a living (and what happened in the court case) ::g

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Post by Lowland » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:04 pm

That’s nice
Great to see...
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Post by DiOz » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:11 pm

17th century tokens with a star on them often indicate what the issuer's trade was...

O. at . the . Stare . Taverne = A star of eight rays.
R. IN . SOVTHWARKE . 1649 = R . M . C.

O. SAMVELL . CONEY . INKEEPER = A star with eight rays.
R. OF . SALOP . 1669 = HIS PENNY.

O. AT . THE . STAR . TAVERN = A star of six points.
R. IN . EAST . SMITHFIELD = C . A . H.

O. NICHOLAS . MILLER . AT . THE = A star of eight waving points.
R. TAVERN . IN . COLEMAN . STREET = N . M. 1/2.

O. AT . THE . STARE . TAVERN = A star of eight points.
R. IN . CHEAPSIDE . 1652 = W . S . M.

O. THE . STARR . TAVERNE . IN = A Star of eight points.
R. BISHOPS . GATE . STREETE = H . I . B.

A pic of the Star Inn in Barnstaple, c.1860......
http://www.closedpubs.co.uk/devon/barns ... arinn.html
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Re: Barnstaple trade token

Post by cantona1 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 pm

Dioz,, I've posted the other local trade token, good luck i think you'll need it :D

Interesting about the Star Inn being on Castle Quay,, in 1588 several ships left there to support Drake against the Spanish Armada, and several ships and local men were amongst the first attempts to colonize America, the lost settlement at Roanoke had several Barnstaple and Bideford people amongst them and they too left from Barnstaple Quay I believe.

Oxgirl, amazing, how did you find that? I have some digging to do :D
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Re: Barnstaple trade token

Post by DiOz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:57 pm

There's lots of Somers in this Barnstaple Parish Register...including A Phillipp Somers.....

https://archive.org/stream/registerofba ... rch/SOMERS
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Re: Barnstaple trade token

Post by cantona1 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:51 pm

Thank you all :D it looks like I've got some investigation to do ::g

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