Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

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Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

Post by stejens » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:31 pm

I found this stone ball right at the end as I was walking off the field, I picked it up and thought it was a hammer stone or a small cannonball, but others had said Roman Ballista ball, and seeing that it came off the field where the Roman hoard was found - It makes more sense.

Or could be just a stone :))

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Was a great day out too, enjoyed it. ::g
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Re: Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

Post by Euro Detector » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:36 pm

Fantastic find ::g

Could very well be a Roman ballista ball. It's difficult to say if it dates back to Roman times, though. Ballista balls were in use from the Roman to Medieval periods, the object could also potentially be architectural, and date from any time from Roman to Modern.
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Re: Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

Post by fred » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:43 pm

I saw several similar but smaller round stones on the dig so I suspect that it was probably natural. Of course that that wouldn't have stopped it being used as a weapon but the context isn't really strong enough to be definite proof. You really need it embedded in the remains of a Celtic warrior for that! :D

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Post by stejens » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:06 pm

I thought of it being a small stone cannonball originally, because it has those rust markings on the stone.

It weighed 380g also, which was similar to some others.
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Post by kenleyboy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:15 pm

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Hi Stejens ,
please forgive me for hijacking your post regarding the Roman Ballista ball . I too was at Holme Hale and noticed a number of these here and there on the fields and I see a few of them on my regular dog walks around my local farmland . The one in the image is an odd and curious one as it has two almost identical holes which are both about 1/2 inch into the stone . I found this one while walking across a field on my way to the river for a bit of fishing . Both holes are about the same size but this could just be a natural occurrence in the stone itself . Just seems odd that the holes are almost identical . The diameter of this stone is 40mm and almost perfectly round . I thought possibly some sort of sling shot maybe but who knows .One hole is five sided and the other looks like it has an edge missing making it four sided .

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Post by WVAM » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:11 pm

They're in Surrey too - though my balls are a little smaller!

I've asked the British Museum whether canon-shot gravel (e.g. East Anglia) was mined or collected for ammunition but they haven't got back to me, which I think means they don't know.
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Post by alloverover » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:04 pm

Have a look here stejens ::g ( |thought there was a name change on the horizon :D ) viewtopic.php?f=120&t=57999&hilit=round+stone

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Post by madproffesor » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:19 pm

I found something very similar and thought it was a balista, it still could be though, but someone on here said it could be a fossilised sea sponge :-/ . If you look at the link at the bottom of the page, posted by another member and look at those you can see a sponge like surface on the object. Hope this helps ::g
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Re: Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

Post by stejens » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:33 am

alloverover wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:04 pm
Have a look here stejens ::g ( |thought there was a name change on the horizon :D ) viewtopic.php?f=120&t=57999&hilit=round+stone
Thanks, will give that a read. The name change would be incoming, but not sure when as I can't seem to make my mind up =))
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Re: Roman Ballista Ball? HOLME HALE DIG

Post by Koala » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:12 pm

99% will natural.

A lot will be glacial erratic's

Some could also have been used as a hammer stone

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