Found these in my father's garden the other night using a Garret 400i, both about 6/7 inches down, and both strong solid signals in the mid 80's.
Firstly the button. Silver in colour and in good condition, roughly the same size as a new 10 pence piece.
It has the words UTRAQUE PALLADE and the face of a dog above a crown. This evening, whilst showing my dad, I gave it a quick clean and noticed the reverse had some words on it. I can make out LONDON at the bottom and above that CASTLE, possible followed by ST and then some other word. The word at the top possibly could be CHRISTIAN.
I did a google based on UTRAQUE PALLADE and came up with the family name BENDICK - their motto is UTRAQUE PALLADE and they have a dog's head on their crest that matches, so a positive id there I believe. They also hailed from near Royston which was where the button was found.
I've tried the silver foil test, but no conclusive result - it's the first time I've ever done it.
My question is does anyone know any more about the family, what metal this could possibly be, and a rough age - I was thinking probably around the mid 19th century.
The 2nd item is unknown but possibly a buckle of some sort or hair clip??? Can't seem to add any more pics so I'll add those afterwards.
It was found approximately 10 ft away from the button.
Any ideas what this could be? I'm not sure what type of metal it is, underneath all the crud it is silver in colour.
What is the best way to clean these items up, so far all I've done is run them under hot water and gently scrub with a toothbrush?
Thanks for any help
"Rev. Richard BENDYSHE, of Barrington, Cambridgeshire, and BENDISH of Steeple-Bamstead, Essex."
http://www.myfamilysilver.com/crestfind ... mily-crest
Unidentified Family Livery Buttons VIDEO #1...
Thanks for taking the time to respond and research
DiOz / Dave is the font of all knowledge re livery buttons and crests and provides many of us with good IDs.
What you have on the back is the makers mark - at the top would be the firms name and at the bottom the address. I am not convinced about the word "Christian", but I can not work out what it is (and about to go out so not time to play), but then as as been proved on here previously I do need to go to specsaver, even if it is it would probably be coincidental that the button belonged to a Rev.
I think what you might have at the bottom of the button is the address "Castle Street Chelsea London"
If you can make out the makers name it could well narrow the date range of the button down.
The best resource that I know for button makers marks is http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/button-makers.html
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You will be in a better position than us to work out what they are made from as it's not always easy from a photo. The buckle (I'm assuming it is one?) looks like it has a gold wash? It has a silver look about it so it could be silver To check if it is silver underneath try the spit and foil test. Spit on some foil and wrap it round the object. If it smells of rotten eggs you have silver. It will probably get hot too if it is silver.
8 silver hammered coins (1 in 2016; 7 in 2017) - and still trying to get off the mark in 2018
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Anyway, pic updates after cleaning
Thanks everyone for all the help